“I taught about eight years in Indiana. Didn’t like it much, but that was just where life was. Then I moved here and spent a couple years teaching in the prison system and then started teaching for Baltimore City Public Schools. I did that for three or four years and then decided I wanted to have a sort of wider reaching impact and so I decided to do administrative stuff. I got my tail handed to me by the middle school kids at Garrison Middle School. I mean it was like being a first-year teacher all over again. I didn’t really feel like I was knowing what I was doing until probably... maybe it took a whole year. And then, I guess, really my first day as an administrator didn’t feel all that different because they were bigger - they were high school kids not middle school kids - but there’s still the same behaviors, the same trying to figure out who I am, who I was as a person, what I was willing to accept, what I wasn’t... Really very similar experiences. Got my tail handed to me twice. I always wanted, from the time I was really little, wanted to work in an area as diverse as I could find. I have no idea why. It was just a thing growing up in the 60s I guess. I wasn’t really old enough, I felt like, to partake in the 60s, you know like peace, love, and all that stuff.”